{"comments":{"1144461":{"pb_id":"68733","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1144461","comment_id":"1144461","member_id":"68733","comment":"Indeed..
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\nMany agree , but , but after FM domination in 2004, I believe it was and getting beat at Nationals? I think, many have downplayed the 2.5 time tested Vanny results
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\nNot me, this is all time stuff no matter where it was or the distance","date_added":"Oct 14th 2014, 6:37pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"King999","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=68733","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/King999.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1493915"},"1144244":{"pb_id":"43639","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1144244","comment_id":"1144244","member_id":"43639","comment":"
<\/a>King999, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>cerutty fan, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>King999, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>King999, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>King999, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>GeorgieTheK, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>ORXCCoach, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>GeorgieTheK, on , said:<\/p>
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\nThey get too skewed by one guy possibly, which happened today
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\nThe issue here today was that this was a very fast race 20 under 12:45 35 under 13:00, when you pick up scoring at second with 47th you have no chance, in this type of field.
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\nI'm just getting to the results after being in the mountains all weekend.
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\nTo borrow a kingism - FM a horror show. Seriously.
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\nAre we not talking about this? I know the race was fast, etc. But they had their #2 guy at 12:21, and 4 guys under 12:40.
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\nI think CBA ran really poorly, as poorly as they have run in the past 10 years. In fact, the last time they had a team that was good enough to run well and didn't was...at Manhattan in 2004 when they got waxed by FM. But even on their best day they don't come close to FM.
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\nFM's performance might be the best HS team performance ever. Top guy who is legitimately one of the best 5-10 guys in the country (if not better), with 3 other guys within 30 secs of him.
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\nScary stuff. Kudos to them.","date_added":"Oct 14th 2014, 2:39pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"GeorgieTheK","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43639","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/GeorgieTheK.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1073375"},"1140246":{"pb_id":"50627","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1140246","comment_id":"1140246","member_id":"50627","comment":"
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\nCome on.
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\nEDIT: Let's take a closer look at this, because it's a great example of how the snapshot of a single race can show something different than what the actual results over the course of the season has shown.
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\nOn the left is the rank within their team (including a quick estimate of the race today) and on the right is how they ran (all were in the championship race).
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\nClaremont -
\n#1\/2 Adam Johnson = #31 (15:48.25)
\n#1\/2 Mike Lowrie = #19 (15:38.09)
\n#3 Jonah Ross = #16 (15:36.51)
\n#4 Dylan Powers = #45 (16:00.61)
\n#5\/6 Tom Englebert = #67 (16:16.26)
\n#5\/6 Jonah Evans = #76 (16:20.17)
\n#7 Tab Backman = #119 (16:40.69)
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\nCanyon -
\n#1 Wesley Walsh = #5 (15:23.32)
\n#2 Chance Lamberth = #8 (15:26.76)
\n#3\/4 Ryan Thompson = #40 (15:57.29)
\n#3\/4 Dylan Scarsone = #28 (15:46.41)
\n#5\/6 Dalton Tanner = #94 (16:27.45)
\n#5\/6 Travis Gradijan = #95 (16:28.07)
\n#7 Omar Ledezma = #151 (17:04.28)
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\nSouthlake Carroll -
\n#1 Eli Canal = #22 (15:43.60)
\n#2 Reed Brown = #18 (15:37.60)
\n#3 Timou Toure = #103 (16:32.21)
\n#4\/5 Ansel Richards = #70 (16:18.02)
\n#4\/5 Shea Whatley = #42 (15:58.60)
\n#6 Charles Gardner = #43 (15:59.18)
\n#7 Johnny Kemps = #60 (16:11.76)
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\nSo, Southlake Carroll's #5\/6 guys (though not on this day) beat Claremont's #4, and Southlake Carroll's #1-2 punch (both today and their usual runners) beat Claremont's #1-2 punch.
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\nMeanwhile, Southlake Carroll's #5\/6 guys (though not on this day) were far ahead of Canyon's #5; their #5 on the day was STILL almost 10 seconds ahead of Canyon's, and their #4's were very similar (though Canyon had the better day up front).
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\nDespite the fact that the only reason Canyon (175) and Claremont (178) scored less points than Southlake Carroll (185) was because of the makeup of the Championship race's field, the fact that Southlake Carroll had a more significant trek to get to the meet, were coming off a big win the week before, and had a worse day when looking at "who ran what" vs. "who should have run what", you believe all that is irrelevant because Canyon scored 175 points, Claremont scored 178 points, and Southlake Carroll scored 185 in the championship race.
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\nThat's correct. As they say, "scoreboard".","date_added":"Oct 12th 2014, 3:43am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"cerutty fan","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_wally_id":"1212787"},"1139604":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1139604","comment_id":"1139604","member_id":"43715","comment":"
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\nIn this case the merged scored definitely does not take precedence over the actual race score. If they had one or two kids run 30-40 seconds faster in the DI race then that would be different.
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\nSo... they scored essentially the same amount of points as a pair of US#15-30 ranked teams and not far off a US Top-5 team, while some of their runners had clearly bad days (their #3 and #4 ran as their #7 and #6 in the championship race, and two of their 'B' team runners ran faster than they did as well), and you think that means that, despite running well and winning Nike South last week<\/span> clearly showing they are either #1 or #2 in Texas and #2 or #3 in the South, and what that all means is they should drop back to #29-34 (behind teams they beat last week)?
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\nCome on.
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\nEDIT: Let's take a closer look at this, because it's a great example of how the snapshot of a single race can show something different than what the actual results over the course of the season has shown.
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\nOn the left is the rank within their team (including a quick estimate of the race today) and on the right is how they ran (all were in the championship race).
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\nClaremont -
\n#1\/2 Adam Johnson = #31 (15:48.25)
\n#1\/2 Mike Lowrie = #19 (15:38.09)
\n#3 Jonah Ross = #16 (15:36.51)
\n#4 Dylan Powers = #45 (16:00.61)
\n#5\/6 Tom Englebert = #67 (16:16.26)
\n#5\/6 Jonah Evans = #76 (16:20.17)
\n#7 Tab Backman = #119 (16:40.69)
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\nCanyon -
\n#1 Wesley Walsh = #5 (15:23.32)
\n#2 Chance Lamberth = #8 (15:26.76)
\n#3\/4 Ryan Thompson = #40 (15:57.29)
\n#3\/4 Dylan Scarsone = #28 (15:46.41)
\n#5\/6 Dalton Tanner = #94 (16:27.45)
\n#5\/6 Travis Gradijan = #95 (16:28.07)
\n#7 Omar Ledezma = #151 (17:04.28)
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\nSouthlake Carroll -
\n#1 Eli Canal = #22 (15:43.60)
\n#2 Reed Brown = #18 (15:37.60)
\n#3 Timou Toure = #103 (16:32.21)
\n#4\/5 Ansel Richards = #70 (16:18.02)
\n#4\/5 Shea Whatley = #42 (15:58.60)
\n#6 Charles Gardner = #43 (15:59.18)
\n#7 Johnny Kemps = #60 (16:11.76)
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\nSo, Southlake Carroll's #5\/6 guys (though not on this day) beat Claremont's #4, and Southlake Carroll's #1-2 punch (both today and their usual runners) beat Claremont's #1-2 punch.
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\nMeanwhile, Southlake Carroll's #5\/6 guys (though not on this day) were far ahead of Canyon's #5; their #5 on the day was STILL almost 10 seconds ahead of Canyon's, and their #4's were very similar (though Canyon had the better day up front).
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\nDespite the fact that the only reason Canyon (175) and Claremont (178) scored less points than Southlake Carroll (185) was because of the makeup of the Championship race's field, the fact that Southlake Carroll had a more significant trek to get to the meet, were coming off a big win the week before, and had a worse day when looking at "who ran what" vs. "who should have run what", you believe all that is irrelevant because Canyon scored 175 points, Claremont scored 178 points, and Southlake Carroll scored 185 in the championship race.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 11:48pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1139598":{"pb_id":"50627","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1139598","comment_id":"1139598","member_id":"50627","comment":"
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\nI would still say they should drop at least 10-15 spots to 29-34 range. I wouldn't rank them based on a "merged" score using runners that raced in less competitive races and therefore had less traffic to negotiate given where they finished. Their boys that ran 16:02 (10th place in DI) and 16:09 (14th in DI) wouldn't necessarily have run faster than their 5th runner (16:11 for 69th) did in the Championship race.
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\nIn this case the merged scored definitely does not take precedence over the actual race score. If they had one or two kids run 30-40 seconds faster in the DI race then that would be different.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 11:42pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"cerutty fan","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_wally_id":"1212787"},"1139090":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1139090","comment_id":"1139090","member_id":"43715","comment":"Now that all the races at Clovis are done, Southlake Carroll ends up #2 in the full merge. Anyone still think they should drop out of the top 30?
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\nIt's worth putting into perspective: CBA's team time was pretty similar to what they ran in 2011, when they edged Southlake Carroll 91-95 to win NXN.
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\nA ~13:00 average isn't world-beating anymore, but it's still a very solid mid-season mark en route to bigger meets later in the season.
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\nYes, true and I think they do know this is not the time of year that you HAVE to beat the world but I would bet anything they're not happy with this result.
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\nEDIT: and on another front, Briana Gess won the girls B race by 25+ seconds, in the third fastest time of the day. She was 5 seconds behind wunderkind Kelati who ran in the Easterns race with PLENTY of competition. Gess should be ranked much higher.
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\nI guess she has now done something!!! :-)","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 9:28pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Joe Lanzalotto","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=3300","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Joe-Lanzalotto.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"7321"},"1139003":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1139003","comment_id":"1139003","member_id":"43715","comment":"
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\nThey get too skewed by one guy possibly, which happened today
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\nThe issue here today was that this was a very fast race 20 under 12:45 35 under 13:00, when you pick up scoring at second with 47th you have no chance, in this type of field.
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\nI was trying to put a positive spin on their race; my apologies.
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\nPerhaps looking at the NY trio would be better then:
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\n#3 St. Anthony's times were better almost across the board than CBA's times that year (only spot that St. A's didn't have the edge was #3, where they ran 12:59.3 to CBA 2011's 12:58.2). The NY teams that beat CBA are all very very good.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 9:23pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1139002":{"pb_id":"68733","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1139002","comment_id":"1139002","member_id":"68733","comment":"I rarely use team times OR even 5 man avgs to look at a race
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\nThey get too skewed by one guy possibly, which happened today
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\nThe issue here today was that this was a very fast race 20 under 12:45 35 under 13:00, when you pick up scoring at second with 47th you have no chance, in this type of field.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 9:20pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"King999","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=68733","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/King999.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1493915"},"1139001":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1139001","comment_id":"1139001","member_id":"43715","comment":"No doubt, that's a very good trio of NY teams.
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\nIt's worth putting into perspective: CBA's team time was pretty similar to what they ran in 2011, when they edged Southlake Carroll 91-95 to win NXN.
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\nA ~13:00 average isn't world-beating anymore, but it's still a very solid mid-season mark en route to bigger meets later in the season.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 9:17pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1138999":{"pb_id":"68733","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1138999","comment_id":"1138999","member_id":"68733","comment":"Joe, to further emphasize a point, if Paugh had scored they would only have dropped off 25 more points, still would have been fourth by a bit.At 190","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 9:05pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"King999","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=68733","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/King999.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1493915"},"1138997":{"pb_id":"3300","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1138997","comment_id":"1138997","member_id":"3300","comment":"
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\nAnd when I am wrong I admit it, CBA had a rough day today, no two ways around that
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\nFM was on fire and CBA looks like they were never in it. FM had four guys under 12:40 on this layout
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\nI do not remember an important or visible meet where they had a day like this when much was expected. It does happen.
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\n...and then some. Greg Paugh, who ran the JV race, would have been their second varsity scorer today.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 9:01pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Joe Lanzalotto","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=3300","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Joe-Lanzalotto.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"7321"},"1138993":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1138993","comment_id":"1138993","member_id":"43715","comment":"
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\nAnd when I am wrong I admit it, CBA had a rough day today, no two ways around that
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\nFM was on fire and CBA looks like they were never in it. FM had four guys under 12:40 on this layout
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\nI do not remember an important or visible meet where they had a day like this when much was expected. It does happen.
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\nI don't know why you would doubt it: CC has dropped in the rankings every week, and since they didn't run particularly well, will continue to do so. That's exactly what my ranking philosophy dictates: if you haven't run well recently, you drop. If you HAVE run well recently, you move up. It's not rocket science, it's not unreasonable, and it's not unfair.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 9:03pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1138992":{"pb_id":"68733","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1138992","comment_id":"1138992","member_id":"68733","comment":"well, we will see if you are true to your word
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\nAnd when I am wrong I admit it, CBA had a rough day today, no two ways around that
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\nFM was on fire and CBA looks like they were never in it. FM had four guys under 12:40 on this layout
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\nI do not remember an important or visible meet where they had a day like this when much was expected. It does happen.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 8:41pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"King999","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=68733","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/King999.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1493915"},"1138989":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1138989","comment_id":"1138989","member_id":"43715","comment":"Again, teams don't drop because they have one bad race, so I don't forsee Great Oak dropping just because of what they ran. They might drop because of what other teams run, though. Same for Southlake Carroll.
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\nCC will drop a bit, possibly out of the top 40 we will see.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 8:06pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1138921":{"pb_id":"50627","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1138921","comment_id":"1138921","member_id":"50627","comment":"Teams that raced in Clovis should shake this ranking up quite a bit. In my opinion, Clovis tells us the following:
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\nGreat Oak should drop 5-10 spots.
\nCanyon should be in the top 30.
\nMadera is hiding their 5th guy again, should retain their ranking.
\nClaremont should retain their ranking.
\nSouthlake Carroll should drop about 10-15 spots.
\nCentral Catholic should drop out of top 40.","date_added":"Oct 11th 2014, 6:15pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"cerutty fan","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=50627","pb_wally_id":"1212787"},"1137775":{"pb_id":"43703","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1137775","comment_id":"1137775","member_id":"43703","comment":"
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\nFrom 2006-2008 GA was in Hoover. We won it there in 07, as well as NXNSE. It was a deceptively slow course.
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\nI think the first xc result I saw from wakemed was in 2004.","date_added":"Oct 9th 2014, 12:10am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"ORXCCoach","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43703","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43703","pb_wally_id":"1073472"},"1137697":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1137697","comment_id":"1137697","member_id":"43715","comment":"
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\nDo you know of a top 10 (or deeper) list for the course? Individuals, primarily, but I'd be curious about team avg's too.
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\nFrom my files, this was what I had (prior to this year):
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\n14:43.60 - Sean McGorty - 12 - Chantilly VA - 2012
\n14:43.90 - Jacob Thomson - 12 - Holy Cross KY - 2012
\n14:57.50 - Josh Brickell - 12 - Peachtree Ridge GA - 2012
\n14:57.60 - Daniel Moore - 12 - Holy Trinity Academy FL - 2011
\n14:58.50 - Elliot Clemente - 12 - Belen Jesuit FL - 2011
\n14:59.20 - Thomas Madden - 12 - Skyline VA - 2012
\n15:00.20 - Jacob Burcham - 11 - Cabell Midland WV - 2011
\n15:00.20 - Armando DelValle - 12 - Miami Columbus FL - 2010
\n15:02.80 - Jacob Thomson - 11 - Holy Cross KY - 2011
\n15:03.20 - Sandy Roberts - 12 - Broughton NC - 2005
\n15:03.30 - Bakri Abushouk - 12 - Cary NC - 2012
\n15:05.70 - Taylor Caldwell - 12 - Brentwood TN - 2013
\n15:07.00 - Thomas Graham - 12 - Cary Academy NC - 2011
\n15:07.20 - Thomas Mulroy - 12 - Midlothian VA - 2013
\n15:07.90 - Tyler Spear - 12 - Loyola Blakefield MD - 2013
\n15:09.40 - Austin Sprague - 12 - St. Pius X GA - 2013
\n15:09.80 - Jacob Burcham - 12 - Cabell Midland WV - 2012
\n15:10.00 - Adam Visokay - 12 - Albemarle VA - 2011
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\n16:40.90 - Aisling Cuffe - 12 - Cornwall NY - 2010
\n16:56.31 - Aislinn Ryan - 11 - Warwick Valley NY - 2004
\n17:01.40 - Julie Macedo - 12 - Charter of Wilmington DE - 2011
\n17:05.50 - Aislinn Ryan - 12 - Warwick Valley NY - 2005
\n17:10.00 - Wesley Frazier - 9 - Ravenscroft NC - 2009
\n17:11.10 - Haley Pierce - 12 - Tatnall DE - 2011
\n17:14.00 - Carolyn Baskir - 12 - East Chapel Hill NC - 2009
\n17:14.60 - Kathleen Stevens - 12 - Blacksburg VA - 2009
\n17:17.00 - Samantha Nadel - 10 - North Shore NY - 2009
\n17:17.00 - Wesley Frazier - 12 - Ravenscroft NC - 2012
\n17:23.00 - Ashley Brasovan - 8 - Wellington FL - 2005
\n17:23.21 - Whitney Anderson - 12 - Summit CO - 2004
\n17:24.40 - Annie LeHardy - 12 - Hidden Valley VA - 2010
\n17:24.50 - Joanna Stevens - 12 - Blacksburg VA - 2009
\n17:25.10 - Hannah Christen - 11 - Lake Braddock VA - 2012
\n17:25.40 - Kelsey Margey - 11 - Harborfields NY - 2010
\n17:27.00 - Jessica Molloy - 10 - Mountain Brook AL - 2012
\n17:27.90 - Maggie Drazba - 12 - St. Mary's WV - 2012
\n17:30.00 - Hannah Long - 10 - Eureka MO - 2012
\n17:30.72 - Nicole Blood - 11 - Saratoga Springs NY - 2004
\n17:31.90 - Taylor Driscoll - 12 - Saratoga Springs NY - 2012
\n17:33.00 - Lindsey Olivere - 12 - Archmere Academy DE - 2010
\n17:33.90 - Kayla Beattie - 12 - Woodstock IL - 2010
\n17:34.00 - Amanda Winslow - 12 - Collins Hill GA - 2008
\n17:34.30 - Nora McUmber - 11 - Bethesda-Chevy Chase MD - 2013
\n17:35.10 - Cassie Hintz - 12 - Old Town ME - 2005
\n17:35.40 - Katie Fortner - 10 - Cave Spring VA - 2011
\n17:35.40 - Carolyn Bethel - 12 - Hidden Valley VA - 2012
\n17:36.17 - Erin Bedell - 12 - Plano West TX - 2004
\n17:36.60 - Kara Dickerson - 12 - Midlothian VA - 2012
\n17:36.60 - Keara Sammons - 12 - Smoky Hill CO - 2005
\n17:37.00 - Diane Robison - 12 - Parkway Central MO - 2009
\n17:37.80 - Mattie Webb - 12 - Western Albemarle VA - 2010
\n17:39.32 - Cassie Hintz - 11 - Old Town ME - 2004
\n17:39.90 - Haley Cutright - 12 - Hidden Valley VA - 2010
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\nBoys Teams Sub-79:45 (21):
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\n77:00.20 - Christian Brothers Academy NJ 2012
\n77:13.60 - Brentwood TN 2013
\n78:01.70 - Chantilly VA 2012
\n78:05.60 - Severna Park MD 2013
\n78:09.60 - Belen Jesuit FL 2011
\n78:25.50 - St. Xavier KY 2012
\n78:28.70 - Cardinal O'Hara PA 2012
\n78:50.30 - Trinity Prep FL 2010
\n78:57.40 - Midlothian VA 2013
\n78:58.40 - Broughton NC 2013
\n79:09.80 - Blacksburg VA 2012
\n79:11.20 - Cardinal O'Hara PA 2011
\n79:13.30 - Miami Columbus FL 2010
\n79:19.40 - Midlothian VA 2010
\n79:20.30 - Brentwood TN 2012
\n79:22.40 - St. Pius X GA 2013
\n79:22.80 - Great Oak CA 2011
\n79:32.90 - Brentwood TN 2011
\n79:38.00 - Jamestown VA 2008
\n79:38.30 - Brookwood GA 2011
\n79:44.60 - Walter Johnson MD 2010
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\n90:18.89 - Saratoga Springs NY 2004
\n90:29.00 - Tatnall DE 2008
\n90:30.10 - Saratoga Springs NY 2010
\n91:09.60 - Saratoga Springs NY 2011
\n91:12.90 - Blacksburg VA 2009
\n91:35.00 - Collins Hill GA 2008
\n91:39.50 - Tatnall DE 2010
\n91:41.80 - Assumption KY 2012
\n92:08.80 - Tatnall DE 2009
\n92:15.00 - Saratoga Springs NY 2009
\n92:31.80 - Tatnall DE 2012
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\nWeather was perfect on Saturday, and Hunter was able to run alone for most of the time--I'd say that's why it ran so fast for him, other than the fact that he was absolutely hauling butt.
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\nIt also looked to me as if Marietta and Boone ran their best races of the year by far.
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\nIt was in Hoover in 2007 (because that's where the NXN-SE regional was that year), but otherwise I think it's been at WakeMed every year.","date_added":"Oct 8th 2014, 7:15pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"1137641":{"pb_id":"3300","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1137641","comment_id":"1137641","member_id":"3300","comment":"
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\nDo you know of a top 10 (or deeper) list for the course? Individuals, primarily, but I'd be curious about team avg's too.
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\nGeorge,
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\nThere's a history page for the meet and the venue on our website here: http:\/\/www.nationals...org\/gacc\/stats\/<\/a>
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\nNot too much on teams there but Jim Spier has put up a very deep Wake Med individual list there for both girls and boys.","date_added":"Oct 8th 2014, 3:42pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":287145,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"Joe Lanzalotto","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=3300","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/Joe-Lanzalotto.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"7321"},"1137640":{"pb_id":"43639","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"1137640","comment_id":"1137640","member_id":"43639","comment":"